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Maine Representative Beth O'Connor
04-12-2015, 11:32 AM
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Maine Representative Beth O'Connor
Representative Beth O'Connor is sponsoring a bill to include the town of Berwick, Maine as an area qualified to receive Maine's Pine Tree Zone Corporate Welfare benefits. When I joined the conversation and pointed out that there is something wrong with a picture where in there has to be special acts of legislation passed in order to include a specific town in Maine for a benefit which was originally created in 2003 for any area in the state of Maine that has high unemployment and low income, she blocked me from her Facebook Page.

The Pine Tree Zone statute was fundamentally transformed in 2009 amid minimal media coverage. The minimal media coverage reported that the Pine Tree Zone was being expanded to cover the entire state. If that was true why is Representative Beth O'Connor proposing a special act of legislation to include the town of Berwick in Pine Tree Zone benefits?

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04-12-2015, 09:55 PM
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RE: Maine Representative Beth O'Connor
"The Pine Tree Zone statute was fundamentally transformed in 2009 amid minimal media coverage. The minimal media coverage reported that the Pine Tree Zone was being expanded to cover the entire state. If that was true why is Representative Beth O'Connor proposing a special act of legislation to include the town of Berwick in Pine Tree Zone benefits"

Because she is just another clueless legislator looking to "bring home the bacon" in her continuous effort to assure she continues in some office receiving a hefty check from taxpayers across the state.
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04-13-2015, 06:06 AM
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RE: Maine Representative Beth O'Connor
Can we reinstate the death penalty for Maine?
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04-15-2015, 09:18 AM (This post was last modified: 04-15-2015 09:20 AM by BlueJay.)
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RE: Maine Representative Beth O'Connor
Because she is just another clueless legislator looking to "bring home the bacon" in her continuous effort to assure she continues in some office receiving a hefty check from taxpayers across the state.
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Seriously?
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04-15-2015, 09:25 AM
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RE: Maine Representative Beth O'Connor
Yeah, I sensed some personal beef as well, which detracts from the credibility of the story. Nothing but grinding an axe.
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04-15-2015, 09:28 AM
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RE: Maine Representative Beth O'Connor
(04-15-2015 09:25 AM)Abacus Wrote:  Yeah, I sensed some personal beef as well, which detracts from the credibility of the story. Nothing but grinding an axe.

I agree. Anyone who knows O'Connor knows she's working for what's best for the community and Maine as a whole.

Think ethanol, for example. She's made that a crusade.
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04-15-2015, 10:17 AM
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RE: Maine Representative Beth O'Connor
Where's the beef, Mack?
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04-15-2015, 02:04 PM (This post was last modified: 04-15-2015 02:05 PM by Mackenzie Andersen.)
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RE: Maine Representative Beth O'Connor
I think Abacus has the beef. Underminer. he ususaly does in my experience.

If Beth O'Connor does what is best for the whole state- then why is she sponsoring a bill to get Pine Tree Zone corporate welfare benefits exclusively for the town of Berwick ? How is that doing best for the whole state? Considering the content of what I wrote about, I would think Blue Jay could think of another way to praise Representative O'Connor. Working for a special interest as in the Town of Berwick is the opposite of working for the common good. Corporate welfare programs such as the Pine Tree Zone benefit some by creating a burden on others- as is concluded in the research done by Pine Tree Watch Dog which is referenced with a link in my blog.
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04-15-2015, 02:15 PM (This post was last modified: 04-15-2015 02:18 PM by Three Pipe Problem.)
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RE: Maine Representative Beth O'Connor
Abacus: The link cites the original comment that Mackenzie said was censored. I'm not seeing anything personal *in that comment* -- let me know if I missed something there. I can understand you wanting to criticize Anderson's *response* to this, but that did happened after the fact (http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Non_sequitur). When someone alleges to have been mistreated by someone in power, I feel that criticizing the *way* the claimed victim expressed herself is beneath you (https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/tu-quoque).

And criticizing tone when Anderson has focused her discussion on specific actions and arguments you leave on the table is evasive... (http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Tone_argument). Isn't the main thing of importance in this discussion whether O'Connor censored the specific comment that Mackenzie claims to have been? And if so, whether it was appropriate? From what I understand this was an ostensibly public discussion about a State level issue a politician has championed. Do you feel that censoring comments like the one Anderson quoted in the blog post is an acceptable way for an elected representative to promote a favored policy? Or no?

BlueJay, are you "Seriously?" (http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Argumentum_...ad_lapidem ) asking Candice if she is serious about criticizing the political money redistribution game?? Are you seriously for it, just as long as the Republicans you like do the taxing and spending? Because that seems like an unprincipled position.

"Anyone who knows O'Connor knows she's working for what's best for the community and Maine as a whole." If this argument was valid, it would mean nothing O'Connor ever did would be worth scrutinizing. (http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Overgeneralization & http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Genetic_fallacy). You could literally substitute it into any conversation about anything she ever did, and it would add as much information -- which is very little. It's fine with me to anonymously vouch for someone's character, but why then shift the discussion away from whether it was right or wrong to censor that comment? Ethanol? (http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Red_herring)
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04-15-2015, 08:15 PM
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RE: Maine Representative Beth O'Connor
Quote:Anyone who knows O'Connor knows she's working for what's best for the community and Maine as a whole.

I agree. Beth also does a lot with Maine Taxpayers United. I wish there were more people like her.
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