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MSEA-SEIU Local 1989
01-04-2014, 02:23 PM (This post was last modified: 01-04-2014 02:25 PM by Truth or Consequences.)
Post: #21
RE: MSEA-SEIU Local 1989
Sonny said: Just like the USSR was tortured for years by Radio Free Europe.
Hee, hee, hee!

Well Sonny, the torture did not assist with the decline in the membership. At the end of the day it is about the membership making or forcing change! That has NOT happened but perhaps at a point, it clearly get under the skins of those sitting at the main headquarters office. However, I am certain they adapted to the thread on AMG and moved on and forward continuing to do whatever the pleases. Doing whatever benefited themselves with no care or worry of the membership. More needs to be done than a thread. It may be a place to discuss one's dissatisfaction but it is doubtful that it will make a difference where the membership is concerned. It is doubtful that members are reading this thread or were reading AMG's thread.
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01-04-2014, 11:32 PM
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RE: MSEA-SEIU Local 1989
(01-04-2014 02:23 PM)Truth or Consequences Wrote:  Well Sonny, the torture did not assist with the decline in the membership.

In 2008 MSEA said they had 15,000 members.

Today they say they have 10,000 members.

Quote: It is doubtful that members are reading this thread or were reading AMG's thread.

This thread on AMG got over 170,000 views!

Who else would be this interested in MSEA but their members & staff?
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01-05-2014, 10:19 AM (This post was last modified: 01-05-2014 10:45 AM by Truth or Consequences.)
Post: #23
RE: MSEA-SEIU Local 1989
Sonny, the reason for the decline in the membership is because state workers were granted early retirement and received a cash bonus beginning with the Baldacci administration and it continued under Governor Lepage. If state workers retired they received a cash bonus between $10,00 and $5,000. And then Governor LePage made changes to the retirement system and age of retirement. And many that had 25 years in opted out before the changes became effective. This is well known in the State of Maine. The "Fair Share" count has NOT increased by much and while the thread remained on AMG for 5 years, I disagree with your numbers of views. I believe that it will take far more then two or three bloggers to make a difference and ONLY the members can force or make changes at MSEA. Why they have not certainly is a mystery. I think it is the amount of energy it takes and the backlash, harrassment and fear of intimidation...........like loss of income. However, check to see how many "fair share" participants there were from 2007 or 2008 thru present. The amount of "fair share" participants probably has not changed much and 2 or 3 people dropping a membership does NOT hurt and this is assuming that 2 or 3 dropped memberships?

If people want to make changes it will take more action than just blogging on a thread. And, remember that at one point the republican's had an opportunity to pass "Right to Work" and backed down. Even a majority of law makers would not get involved. If people want to vent great, but if you want to make a difference, you may want to think of other avenues and NOT just this thread.

Certainly the Attorney General could act upon valid complaints. We had a republican Attorney General for 2 years and now Janet Mills is back as Attorney General. I believe if an audit or valid complaints were submitted to the A.G.'s office, that an audit would have been rendered. After all Governor LePage is NOT a fan of MSEA-SEIU. So the only way to hurt MSEA is in the wallet. In order to do so thousands need to stop paying dues which ceases support or "RTW" will need to be passed in Maine, which I am certain will NEVER happen! In fact, I think it is fair to assume that a majority of democrats will be elected or re-elected in the senate and house. I think that probably Mike Michaud will be elected as Maine's next governor. It is NO longer LePage v. Libby Mitchell. Governor LePage was elected because people refused to vote for Libby Mitchell. Therefore many democrats voted for Cutler. I don't believe this will happen at the next election. Michaud is heavly supported by the people of Maine unlike Libby Mitchell.
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01-05-2014, 05:19 PM (This post was last modified: 01-06-2014 12:40 AM by Truth or Consequences.)
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Sonny and Moving Forward, suggestion, perhaps you should also begin a theme on Face Book. Many members are on Face Book. Just something to think about!
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01-07-2014, 10:43 PM
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RE: MSEA-SEIU Local 1989
(01-05-2014 10:19 AM)Truth or Consequences Wrote:  Sonny, the reason for the decline in the membership is because state workers were granted early retirement and received a cash bonus beginning with the Baldacci administration and it continued under Governor Lepage.

Right...no one wants to stick around....or belong to msea-SEIU.

They're not busy growing because they're busy dying.

And they're busy dying like the Edsel because they suck!

Quote:The "Fair Share" count has NOT increased by much and while the thread remained on AMG for 5 years...

Membership in general at msea-SEIU has not increased...because they suck. Belcher, Quint & Hiltz can't grow the "union" because who in their right minds would want to belong? That's why msea relies so heavily on their government captive market share...because they can't sell their junker to anyone else. Without this government intervention...msea would die off like the anemic dinosaur that it is.

Quote:I disagree with your numbers of views.

It was over 170,000 views when AMG ended. If you have proof of a different number then please provide it here.

Quote: I believe that it will take far more then two or three bloggers to make a difference and ONLY the members can force or make changes at MSEA.

Well sure...but it takes a spark to start a fire...so here is me flinting away...like Radio Free Europe in say 1955....way before the Berlin Wall came down in 1989.

Quote:Why they have not certainly is a mystery. I think it is the amount of energy it takes and the backlash, harrassment and fear of intimidation...........like loss of income.

Fear and inertia always ensures more of the same.

Quote:If people want to make changes it will take more action than just blogging on a thread.

Well of course...but some one has got to be the bell ringer. LOL!

Quote:And, remember that at one point the republican's had an opportunity to pass "Right to Work" and backed down. Even a majority of law makers would not get involved. If people want to vent great, but if you want to make a difference, you may want to think of other avenues and NOT just this thread.

Take that hill Sarge...I got you covered!
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01-08-2014, 11:55 PM
Post: #26
RE: MSEA-SEIU Local 1989
GO FIGURE!

In 2014: Maine State Employees Association, SEIU Local 1989, rejoins Maine AFL-CIO to strengthen Maine workers and help Michaud

Members of the Maine State Employees Association, Local 1989 of the Service Employees International Union, have rejoined the Maine AFL-CIO, a statewide labor federation, after a seven-year hiatus. Collectively, the two groups represent more than 42,000 Maine workers.

"Rejoining the Maine AFL-CIO formalizes the effective working partnerships that MSEA-SEIU members and Maine AFL-CIO members have demonstrated over the last several years," said Ginette Rivard, president of the Maine State Employees Association. "We have worked closely together to defend the right of Maine workers to have a voice in their wages, benefits and working conditions. Together, we will move forward to address common legislative issues such as the urgent need to accept federal funds to expand healthcare coverage and to elect a governor who respects Maine workers. We are united in supporting Congressman Mike Michaud as Maine's next governor."

http://www.mseaseiu.org/

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In 2006: Union leaders act to withdraw from AFL-CIO

“A year after our international union, SEIU, disaffiliated from the national AFL-CIO to build the 6-million-member Change to Win labor federation, the MSEA-SEIU board of directors has voted to disaffiliate from the Maine AFL-CIO,” the state workers union declared in its latest newsletter.

“The leadership of MSEA-SEIU made this difficult decision on Nov. 17 after recognizing the significant opportunities and benefits of developing closer relationships with the Central Labor Councils throughout Maine and after joining the newly created Working Maine Coalition.”

MSEA Executive Director Tim Belcher suggested recently that the union’s continued involvement in various organized labor groupings could still enable employee representatives to coordinate activities.

In further explaining the decision to disaffiliate at the state level, the MSEA-SEIU newsletter said:

“The message from membership at the 2006 annual convention of tighter fiscal responsibility did not go unheeded, and was considered during the decision-making process. The board of directors felt it was imperative to look at the opportunity to build positive relationships within Maine’s labor family, and to do so in a manner that provides the best return for any money spent for participation or affiliation.”

Belcher declined earlier this month to offer financial details.

http://archive.bangordailynews.com/2006/...e-workers/
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01-09-2014, 01:59 PM (This post was last modified: 01-10-2014 06:30 PM by Sonny Laymatina.)
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RE: MSEA-SEIU Local 1989
HMMM....

In further explaining the decision (in 2006) to disaffiliate at the state level, the MSEA-SEIU newsletter said:

“The message from membership at the 2006 annual convention of tighter fiscal responsibility did not go unheeded, and was considered during the decision-making process. The board of directors felt it was imperative to look at the opportunity to build positive relationships within Maine’s labor family, and to do so in a manner that provides the best return for any money spent for participation or affiliation.” (Emphasis added).

http://archive.bangordailynews.com/2006/...e-workers/[/quote]

Best return for whom?

Isn't that a euphemism for kick backs?

Are msea's Board of Directors dumb enough to give millions of members' dues paying dollars away for their "right" to wear purple or green tees shirts?

Maybe...but the most likely explanation is usually the most obvious one.
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01-10-2014, 07:28 AM
Post: #28
2014 race for Maine's 2nd Congressional District
Since 2014 will have a race for Maine's 2nd Congressional District, has anyone heard who SEIU Local 1989 will campaign for? Will it be Troy Jackson (http://www.troyjacksonforcongress.com/) or perhaps Emily Cain (http://www.cainforcongress.com/) for Cash and In-Kind donations?
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01-10-2014, 06:36 PM
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(01-10-2014 07:28 AM)Moving Forward Wrote:  Since 2014 will have a race for Maine's 2nd Congressional District, has anyone heard who SEIU Local 1989 will campaign for? Will it be Troy Jackson (http://www.troyjacksonforcongress.com/) or perhaps Emily Cain (http://www.cainforcongress.com/) for Cash and In-Kind donations?

The one who most emphatically supports Gay rights, open borders, Obama or Hillary as well as labor unions' continued government protected market share to the detriment of union members...because it ain't about them!
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01-12-2014, 11:52 AM (This post was last modified: 01-12-2014 11:53 AM by Moving Forward.)
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BIG political donations from SEIU
FYI - From 2000 to 2012, it has been reported that SEIU HQ alone donated $56,016,342 to political campaigns:
1) Ballot Measures received $31,268,489 (55.82%);
2) Democrat received $24,303,001 (43.39%);
3) Republican received $416,027 (0.74%);
4) Nonpartisan received $22,925 (0.04%);
5) Third Party received $5,900 (0.01%).

SOURCE: http://www.followthemoney.org/database/t...u=2351&y=0

Can you imagine how LARGE the number would be if it also included donations (Cash and In-Kind) from local chapters?

In addition, some more accurate accounting practices would likely increase the numbers even more... but sadly, the majority of members and fee payers might not even care. Confused
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