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MSMA Convention
11-01-2016, 07:28 PM (This post was last modified: 11-01-2016 08:44 PM by Roger Ek.)
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MSMA Convention
I am a school board member as is my wife. Our board sent the chairman and the two of us to the convention last week. It is an annual event and we both went last year also.

There marked differences between last year's event and the one last week. The 2015 convention was a Common Core victory celebration. There are several breakout sessions and most last year extolled the wonders of Common Core and how schools could adapt to this educational new world order. School administrators were told how wonderful it would be to have standardized lesson plans handed down from above for all subjects.

Then reality set in. Teachers, supervisors, superintendents, parents and students hated it. Last week during the entire two day session I never saw the words Common Core in print and never heard the words spoken. One breakout session was titled "Meet the Deputy Commissioner". Bill Beardsley is the deputy commissioner of education because Alfond and Edes don't like our governor and will block votes to approve his nominees.

Bill looked he really did not want to be at the convention. I pointed out that school districts usually have the test results from the prior school year testing in August before the next school year begins. I asked why no school ditrict in the state has their test results for last year. Bill said, "We are massaging the data." He actually said that. If the test results after over a year of Common Core are that bad, just give us the data and let us cope with it.

Other board members and administrators pushed Bill on other matters. There were many questions and Bill's answers repeatedly came down to one of four comments:
1. This is getting under way.
2. We are resolving issues.
3. We are studying how we can change.
4. We are analyzing where we stand.

There were several mentions of local control and no mention of Common Core. Another breakout session pertained to charter schools. There is a bill in the Legislature to allow SADs and RSUs to operate charter schools. We have many empty rooms and empty school buildings in Maine. At the same time we have a requirement that every graduating student be proficient in a foreign language in order to graduate. The legislature is not good at quantitative thinking. It is not possible to train or hire that many language teachers. However, if we can gather students from several schools and bring them to qualified teachers we could meet the requirement. There were a total of seven people at the charter school session.

To my surprise, there was a breakout session on the Constitution in schools. The schedulers had seating for 30 in the room. The session had to be moved across the hall to a much larger room because there were 112 people who wanted to attend the session on our Constitution in our schools. I was most pleased at the turnout and how well prepared the school board members were on the subject. Maine school board members are taking back their management of Maine schools.

There was a regional job fair held recently at the Blue Hill Fairgrounds. We have a shortage of qualified personnel to fill Maine jobs. Eastern Maine Medical Center and its affiliated care facilities have openings for 1,200 people. They can't find qualified people. Camden National Bank has openings for 36 people. The bank can't find qualified people. Numerous other job openings are posted for welders, electricians and mechanics. Maine turns out too many high school graduates with inadequate skills for employment. It's worse than I thought. Our regional vocational tech schools are doing a good job, but their numbers are too low. We need to expand them and cut back on spending that graduates unemployable young people.

The military complains that their recruits need remediation in math, science and writing. Colleges have the same complaints. To Bill Beardsley's credit, his primary point is that we should not be graduating students that need remediation.
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11-05-2016, 05:05 PM
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I there a preferred language that the Legislature wants Maine students to be learning? In the recently passed Industry Partnerships, it is stated three times the English will be taught as a second language.

The Maine Legislature granted itself jurisdiction over all public education in Maine. They write the laws so they gave themselves jurisdiction. Even unconstitutional laws are the law until successfully challenged in court. I would love to see that happen.

When you say "Constitution" are the people there referring to the Maine Constitution or the US Constitution or both? Both should be taught in our public educational system, but while Marxists and Socialists Studies has been a minor at the University of Southern Mane since 2004, there is no education about the Maine Constitution and minimal education about the US Constitution and the American Political philosophy.
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11-05-2016, 06:23 PM
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The Eastern Maine Medical Center should not have a problem finding trained employees. It employs a high enough number of people and is in he health industry to qualify for the Legislature's "targeted Industry" . Now that the Legislature controls all public education in Maine, the educational system is being used as taxpayer subsidized training facilities for targeted sector industries. The other occupations do not qualify as producing "quality jobs" so they are on their own.
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11-05-2016, 07:19 PM
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Take away the various forms of "government welfare" and I suspect that millions more would want to find a job.

There are nearly 100 million adults who are NOT working!

Bet you can't guess who takes care of most of them?

Of the adults that actually ARE working, a very high percentage of them are dependent upon "government", in one way or another, for their employment. This is at an all time high! Real estate in Northern VA, in the DC area, is doing better than any other part of the country, as hordes flock there to work for "Uncle Sugar".

Can't last much longer! Janet Yellen can only make this "magic"work for so long.

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11-06-2016, 02:31 AM
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The "government" is now public private relationships and the taxpayers are subsidizing the upper crust of the economy so the statement "Of the adults that actually ARE working, a very high percentage of them are dependent upon "government" doesn't mean what it used to mean- jobs working in the traditional government sector- it means the public private sector. Without the tax payer subsidization the private sector companies either couldn't or wouldn't pay the high wages and benefits mandated by the Maine Legislature in exchange for arranging for tax payers to cover many of the costs of employment and capitalization of the business.

Some French friends once told me that in France the government tells the people what jobs they can go into.

I was trying to find the statute mandating that high-school students be proficient in another language in order to graduate. I didn't find that but I found this new law from Maine's totalitarian Legislature. This is taking away our freedoms and interfering with the free enterprise system on so many levels. The state of Maine is now a corporation which uses the educational system to train workers for industries approved by the state:

Quote:B-2. For the graduating class of 2020-2021 and each subsequent graduating class, a student who has satisfactorily completed a state-approved career and technical education program of study and either met 3rd-party-verified national or state industry standards set forth in department rules established pursuant to section 8306-B or earned 6 credits in a dual enrollment career and technical education program formed pursuant to chapter 229 from a regionally accredited institution of higher education and who has successfully demonstrated proficiency in meeting state standards in the content areas and the guiding principles set forth in department rules governing implementation of the system of learning results established pursuant to section 6209, is eligible to receive a high school diploma from the secondary school the student last attended. A student may be awarded a high school diploma from the secondary school the student last attended in accordance with the phase-in of the following diploma requirements for the graduating class of 2020-2021 to the graduating class of 2023-2024:

"a state approved career! How to make Maine even less attractive for anyone raising a family! "State approved career!

Then they decided to give a high school diploma for serving in the armed services:
Quote:E. A person may be awarded a high school diploma, including a posthumous award, if the person or a family member of the person applies to a secondary school and:
.....
(2) The person did not graduate or receive a diploma from a secondary school because the person left secondary school to serve in the Armed Forces and served during the following periods:
(a) World War II, from December 7, 1941 to August 16, 1945;
(b) The Korean Conflict;
© The Vietnam War era, from February 28, 1961 to May 7, 1975; or
(d) The period of wartime or peacetime after a period of wartime described in division (a), (b) or ©; and
(3) The person received an honorable discharge or a certificate of honorable service from the Armed Forces.
For the purposes of this paragraph, "Armed Forces" means the United States Army, Navy, Air Force, Marine Corps and Coast Guard and the merchant marine. [2015, c. 489, §2 (AMD).]
No disrespect to our armed forces but that is fucked up. They can give high school diplomas to people living or dead if they serve in the armed forces. That means they can barely know English, or math of history, but if they serve in the armed forces they can get a degree that is supposed to mean one knows those things.

http://www.mainelegislature.org/legis/st...722-A.html
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11-06-2016, 10:20 AM
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It is also prime for dirty politics like all of the Maine economic development policies- which I say because every unconstitutional corporation chartered by the Maine Legislature says that the corporation can accept money from any source- legalized quid quo pro.

Bear that in mind and think about the political wheeling and dealing invited by a system in which the public educational system is set up to train all students in "state approved" industries. First the state has its targeted sector which is already having its work force training done at tax payer expense at the university level. Much of that will be implemented at the high school level as well- pure brave new world where every one is trained to fit like cogs into the corporate state industrial armies ( to borrow a term from Marx)

Imagine that the overlords set it up so that a local industry can have its workforce training paid for by taxpayers and implemented at the high school level. Factor in the quid pro quo built into the state corporate network and also imagine political wheeling and dealing such as takes place in congress- The state will support what the local community wants if the local community supports something else that the state wants. This is a consolidation of hegemonic power. When you combine a centrally managed economy with public private relationships what you have is the same system articulated in The Doctrine of Fascism by Mussolini, which is one of the central themes of my book, Public Private Relationships and the New Owners of the Means of Production available on Amazon.

Add to that the choice- you can get a high school diploma either by taking training in a state approved industry- or by fighting in a war ! The brave new world of total state control is upon us!
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11-06-2016, 01:22 PM
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........"No disrespect to our armed forces but that is fucked up. They can give high school diplomas to people living or dead if they serve in the armed forces. That means they can barely know English, or math of history, but if they serve in the armed forces they can get a degree that is supposed to mean one knows those things"......

My father was a Maine high school principal for almost 30 years, retiring in the mid70's. He followed education all the rest of his life and absolutely deplored the leftist idea of GIVING high school diplomas to young people.

......."Giving a diploma.....to one who has NOT earned it......makes ALL of them worthless"...... is what he would say.


In the original language forming the Maine Military Authority, at Loring, as an "Instrument of the state" the legalese originally stated that NO Taxpayer monies would be given to the MMA......Yet Lepage shut it down over the current MBTA bus refurbishment bid, because some of those holding those"high paying jobs"didn't know how to figure the COST of the job BEFORE bidding on it.

Lepage said he did NOT want the taxpayers on the hook, but the original language protected the taxpayers I thought. Must have sneaked a "midnight change" into that law later.

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11-07-2016, 08:02 PM (This post was last modified: 11-07-2016 08:02 PM by Mackenzie Andersen.)
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In the original language forming the Maine Military Authority, at Loring, as an "Instrument of the state" the legalese originally stated that NO Taxpayer monies would be given to the MMA......Yet Lepage shut it down over the current MBTA bus refurbishment bid, because some of those holding those"high paying jobs"didn't know how to figure the COST of the job BEFORE bidding on it.

Lepage said he did NOT want the taxpayers on the hook, but the original language protected the taxpayers I thought. Must have sneaked a "midnight change" into that law later.

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I haven't followed that story so I do not know what LePage shut down and why.

Note that the bill does not just say that the student can get a high school diploma by serving in the military- it says by serving in a war zone. The choices are: Train for a state approved industry- or serve in a war zone! As if to say that those who will not work in the Maine State Inc's targeted industry can be put to use as cannon fodder!

In the original language forming the Maine Military Authority, at Loring, as an "Instrument of the state" the legalese originally stated that NO Taxpayer monies would be given to the MMA......Yet Lepage shut it down over the current MBTA bus refurbishment bid, because some of those holding those"high paying jobs"didn't know how to figure the COST of the job BEFORE bidding on it.

Lepage said he did NOT want the taxpayers on the hook, but the original language protected the taxpayers I thought. Must have sneaked a "midnight change" into that law later.

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I haven't followed that story so I do not know what LePage shut down and why.

Note that the bill does not just say that the student can get a high school diploma by serving in the military- it says by serving in a war zone. The choices are: Train for a state approved industry- or serve in a war zone! As if to say that those who will not work in the Maine State Inc's targeted industry can be put to use as cannon fodder!
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11-07-2016, 11:12 PM
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The closing of Loring Air force base had a devestating blow on Northern Aroostook Cty. The Maine legislature passed legislation creating the Maine Military Authority, at the former base, as an "instrument" of the state!

Maine Military Authority

This was created by an act of the Maine Legislature in 2001, primarily to provide "high paying" jobs in an economically depressed area, repairing Humvees that had been in combat.

........."1. Execute agreements. Execute cooperative agreements between the Maine National Guard and the Federal Government or its instrumentalities or agencies;.........2. Contract with various entities. Contract with the Federal Government or its instrumentalities or agencies, the State or its agencies, instrumentalities or municipalities, foreign governments, public bodies, private corporations, partnerships, associations and individuals".........

Title 37-B

A few years back the "repairing the war damaged vehicle business" dried up, for lack of busted vehicles. Numerous layoffs took place, of people with those "high paying jobs". Recently the LePage administration helped negotiate a contract with the Massachusetts Bay Transit Authority......for the repair of 36 articulated transit busses.

I have built a number of homes and other buildings......on a contract basis where the job is done for a firm price. In order to be able to do this one has to be able to figure the actual COST of performing the job, then add on 20% profit or whatever.

The highly paid "geniuses" taxed with figuring the actual COST of this work, screwed up badly and way underestimated that cost. The result is that with only 11 units repaired it was obvious that somebody had screwed up bad and the job was way UNDERBID! Lepage stepped in and shut the job down before it cost the taxpayers to make up for the losses. Way to go guys!

The MBTA has the legal right to hold them (state of Maine) to the contract but Lepage is trying to renegotiate the contract with MBTA. MBTA will have no choice but to do so as the job will go on the rocks othewise.

Somewhere in all the legalese (can't find it tonight) I read that the MMA could NOT go to the taxpayers for $$$$. But wording of the laws changes over time to suit the supporters of same I think.

The major question I have is why is the State of Maine trying to run businesses and compete with the state's taxpayers? Someone, in PRIVATE enterprise, someplace in America would have been glad to bid on this business. If this is such a good deal why doesn't the state of Maine take over ALL businesses......and we can all be highly paid state employees?

But you say that WON'T work?

My understanding of the meaning of "Fascism" is that it exists when the state takes over the means of production.

Seems like we are getting closer to that as time goes by!

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11-18-2016, 12:01 PM (This post was last modified: 11-18-2016 12:01 PM by Roger Ek.)
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Mackenzie Andersen wonders:
"I there a preferred language that the Legislature wants Maine students to be learning?"

You betcha, Mac. It is English. The Somali or Syrian trainees will need to learn English or they will be unemployable. Employers don't have time or the need to learn Somali or Syrian. Syrian is different from Arabic.
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